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	<title>Comments on: Romney doubles down on class size claim, vilifies educator unions</title>
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		<title>By: R. Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More hype. Don&#039;t believe everything Obama says. He will say anything to get re-elected. Just like the casinos that promise education funding. They don&#039;t mention that current education funding will get slashed and redirected to other programs-making the increase negligible. Don&#039;t vote for casinos or Obama. Watch the debates-they will tell you what Romney really says. Not this anti-republican hype. Think for yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More hype. Don&#8217;t believe everything Obama says. He will say anything to get re-elected. Just like the casinos that promise education funding. They don&#8217;t mention that current education funding will get slashed and redirected to other programs-making the increase negligible. Don&#8217;t vote for casinos or Obama. Watch the debates-they will tell you what Romney really says. Not this anti-republican hype. Think for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Class size doesn&#039;t matter just like uninsured people getting healthcare at the ER is a cost-effective way to provide care.  I think he is pandering to uneducated and/or classist Americans.  He has to know the truth about both of those claims... the data has existed for years.  He has to be saying what he thinks people want to hear.  I pray he doesn&#039;t win... if my class (or my husband&#039;s classes) get any bigger, we won&#039;t be able to raise our kids b/c our workloads will be out of control!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class size doesn&#8217;t matter just like uninsured people getting healthcare at the ER is a cost-effective way to provide care.  I think he is pandering to uneducated and/or classist Americans.  He has to know the truth about both of those claims&#8230; the data has existed for years.  He has to be saying what he thinks people want to hear.  I pray he doesn&#8217;t win&#8230; if my class (or my husband&#8217;s classes) get any bigger, we won&#8217;t be able to raise our kids b/c our workloads will be out of control!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Alsheimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Alsheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is too bad that Romney shoots himself in the foot so much.  He is out of touch with the realities of public schools today.  However, we cannot say that there are not different factors relevant to the class size question when talking about middle-class suburban schools and those of the inner city and perhaps rural communities.  There is already too much emphasis on test scores as a measure of teacher success or failure.  Individual principals cannot be given unlimited control of their staff retention --teachers must have reasonable due process and support of teacher unions.  Teacher unions are an insulation from the evolving whims of school boards and administrators.  I have seen good teachers driven out to transfer -some to even -retirement by an arbitrary principal.
BUT--- I have yet to see really  substantial  proposals, not superficial, from the Obama administration regarding  the deficit, Medicare, Social Security, huge costs of medicaid,   drug costs, huge student loan deficits, and medical lawsuits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too bad that Romney shoots himself in the foot so much.  He is out of touch with the realities of public schools today.  However, we cannot say that there are not different factors relevant to the class size question when talking about middle-class suburban schools and those of the inner city and perhaps rural communities.  There is already too much emphasis on test scores as a measure of teacher success or failure.  Individual principals cannot be given unlimited control of their staff retention &#8211;teachers must have reasonable due process and support of teacher unions.  Teacher unions are an insulation from the evolving whims of school boards and administrators.  I have seen good teachers driven out to transfer -some to even -retirement by an arbitrary principal.<br />
BUT&#8212; I have yet to see really  substantial  proposals, not superficial, from the Obama administration regarding  the deficit, Medicare, Social Security, huge costs of medicaid,   drug costs, huge student loan deficits, and medical lawsuits.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE ZUCCARELLO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOE ZUCCARELLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Mitch Daniels in fact a state certified teacher? If not, he should get Purdue a  CHARTER so anyone who might want to teach a class...&quot;a class&quot; sounds pretty cushy.
-anyway- good point about class size.
jz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Mitch Daniels in fact a state certified teacher? If not, he should get Purdue a  CHARTER so anyone who might want to teach a class&#8230;&#8221;a class&#8221; sounds pretty cushy.<br />
-anyway- good point about class size.<br />
jz</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After Mr. Romney loses the election he will have time to come teach both my special-Ed and English learner-loaded earth science courses along with my 36-student lab chemistry courses. He can also grade all my papers while I spend time with my family and shop for our clothes at Wal-mart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Mr. Romney loses the election he will have time to come teach both my special-Ed and English learner-loaded earth science courses along with my 36-student lab chemistry courses. He can also grade all my papers while I spend time with my family and shop for our clothes at Wal-mart.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt-O-Vision</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt-O-Vision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If class size doesn&#039;t matter why do charter schools and private schools tout their teacher student ratios as a BIG SELLING POINT?   Out of touch touch doesn&#039;t begin to describe Mitt.  Our soon to be former governor Mitch Daniels now states that he might want to teach a class while he&#039;s prez @ Purdue. &quot;How to stick it to the middle class&quot; would be a good title.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If class size doesn&#8217;t matter why do charter schools and private schools tout their teacher student ratios as a BIG SELLING POINT?   Out of touch touch doesn&#8217;t begin to describe Mitt.  Our soon to be former governor Mitch Daniels now states that he might want to teach a class while he&#8217;s prez @ Purdue. &#8220;How to stick it to the middle class&#8221; would be a good title.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE ZUCCARELLO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOE ZUCCARELLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[APOLOGIES FOR  PREVIOUS CAPS, TYPOS,I DO NOT TYPE IN STANDARD TECHNIQUE.
IMHO, We are seeing in Priority schools in the  capital city  a propensity to continue to change faculty mid stream,  formats,templates, standards and just about everythinig yearly.while transfering  students in at 1/4 rate. We are seeing an increasing and widening workload,evidence based paperwork,documentation of what seems like everything, bullying and many other initiatives while  keeping faculty #s DOWN.
More frequent and detailed state overseeing and &quot;piling on&quot; is occurring  while no $ is backing up the new initiatives in the form of support for initiatives,reforms and brass tacks of teaching --textbooks, maps, globes,audio visual etc.while established succesful performing Arts programs like String Orchestra, Choir,Rock band/guitar class and Percussion Unit were completely ommitted from the day due to the need for a skeleton staff of specialists to cover classes all day,every week using a convoluted, hard to follow schedule that serves over 500 students monthly  one week at a time in 3 and 4 week overlapping rotations with the added confusion of random classes meeting for an hour end of each day with a &quot;specialist&quot; in order for academic clusters to have planning meetings.In our meetings it is all about documenting and cross curricular support for academics,,not our needs in order to serve the needs of the talented students that have been abandoned.
. IMHO again,we are being set up to fail, so the big GOP union can  get what THEY want...............takeover by charter schools and the dissoltion of our little Union.
Sad but true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>APOLOGIES FOR  PREVIOUS CAPS, TYPOS,I DO NOT TYPE IN STANDARD TECHNIQUE.<br />
IMHO, We are seeing in Priority schools in the  capital city  a propensity to continue to change faculty mid stream,  formats,templates, standards and just about everythinig yearly.while transfering  students in at 1/4 rate. We are seeing an increasing and widening workload,evidence based paperwork,documentation of what seems like everything, bullying and many other initiatives while  keeping faculty #s DOWN.<br />
More frequent and detailed state overseeing and &#8220;piling on&#8221; is occurring  while no $ is backing up the new initiatives in the form of support for initiatives,reforms and brass tacks of teaching &#8211;textbooks, maps, globes,audio visual etc.while established succesful performing Arts programs like String Orchestra, Choir,Rock band/guitar class and Percussion Unit were completely ommitted from the day due to the need for a skeleton staff of specialists to cover classes all day,every week using a convoluted, hard to follow schedule that serves over 500 students monthly  one week at a time in 3 and 4 week overlapping rotations with the added confusion of random classes meeting for an hour end of each day with a &#8220;specialist&#8221; in order for academic clusters to have planning meetings.In our meetings it is all about documenting and cross curricular support for academics,,not our needs in order to serve the needs of the talented students that have been abandoned.<br />
. IMHO again,we are being set up to fail, so the big GOP union can  get what THEY want&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;takeover by charter schools and the dissoltion of our little Union.<br />
Sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE ZUCCARELLO</title>
		<link>http://educationvotes.nea.org/2012/09/26/romney-double-downs-on-class-size-claim-vilifies-educator-unions-again/comment-page-1/#comment-44088</link>
		<dc:creator>JOE ZUCCARELLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HOW COULD I DUPLICATE WHNE THIS IS MY FIRST COMMENT EVER????

GOP AND DEMS  ARE THE 2 BIGGETS ORGANIZED LABOR/UNIONESQUE ORGANIZATIONS IN  THE WORLD. HOW CAN GOP CRITICIZE  OTHERS  FOR DOING BASICALLY THE SAME THING THEY DO?
IT ALL B.S.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOW COULD I DUPLICATE WHNE THIS IS MY FIRST COMMENT EVER????</p>
<p>GOP AND DEMS  ARE THE 2 BIGGETS ORGANIZED LABOR/UNIONESQUE ORGANIZATIONS IN  THE WORLD. HOW CAN GOP CRITICIZE  OTHERS  FOR DOING BASICALLY THE SAME THING THEY DO?<br />
IT ALL B.S.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE ZUCCARELLO</title>
		<link>http://educationvotes.nea.org/2012/09/26/romney-double-downs-on-class-size-claim-vilifies-educator-unions-again/comment-page-1/#comment-44086</link>
		<dc:creator>JOE ZUCCARELLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE 2 BIGGESS UNION STYLE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD?-THE GOP AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.I COULD JUST STOP HERE,RIGHT?
BUT THE REPUBLICAN IDEAL IS TO BE  THE ONLY SUCH ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY--THEN WHO WILL BE DEMONIZE THEM WHEN THEY GET WAHT THEY WANT???
AHA MOMENT?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE 2 BIGGESS UNION STYLE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD?-THE GOP AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.I COULD JUST STOP HERE,RIGHT?<br />
BUT THE REPUBLICAN IDEAL IS TO BE  THE ONLY SUCH ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY&#8211;THEN WHO WILL BE DEMONIZE THEM WHEN THEY GET WAHT THEY WANT???<br />
AHA MOMENT?</p>
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